A hello and request for suggestions

One comment though: when I try to play the file "In the mood" I get a message back saying "missing codec". I'm using Win XP SP1. I was however able to play this song on win98 and win2k. You might want to check out on any other XP computer then your own, to see if this XP related or just a problem on my computer. I don't have problems to play any other wav or mp3 file.

[size=18px]Update: I FOUND THE CAUSE[/size]

Doc, make sure that you read my post on the next page of this thread.

[Doc]

Gaussian,

That's really strange. I've had "In The Mood" up at my site for some time...just with a different way to access it and the rest of my songs. I haven't heard anyone else have that problem. Thanks for the headsup.

I too am using Win XP SP1.

I've completed the entire left side of the jukebox. Hope you don't have problems with the other songs as well.

Doc

[wbiss]

Hey Doc, I can see that you've been busy! Good job, thus far!

DOC, I found the problem.

I compared the installed codecs on my computer with a Win2k machine and found out that the Indeo Audio Software codec is not installed on my computer and I also found out the reason why.

Check the Ligos web iste: http://www.ligos.com/indeo.htm#xp

I quote:

"With the September 2002 update to Windows XP (known as Service Pack 1), Microsoft is no longer distributing any version of the Indeo codecs with its operating system. This only affects users with new PCs that are shipping with Windows XP Service Pack 1, or clean installs of Windows XP SP1 on an older system. Installation upgrades of SP1 and the use of Windows Update does not remove existing Indeo codecs from your system"

The reason why it works on your machine is because you probably installed SP1 after you installed XP.
My machine however is installed from scratch with a Windows XP SP1 installation CD and that's the reason why I don't have these codecs and the reason why I can't download them from the XP web site.

So the conclusion is; every user that has a new PC with Windows XP SP1 installed in the factory, will be unable to listen to your songs and also every user who installed XP using a Windows XP SP1 installation CD. At the moment these are just a minority, but you will hear more and more complaints in the future about users who will be unable to listen to your audio.

I thought you should know that

Solution; don't use Indeo Codecs for your Wav files.

[Doc]

I'm glad you found the answer to why you were unable to play the song, It looks like I may have to resample my music soon. To be sure, more and more computer users will have new systems shipped with XP SP1 installed.

And, you are correct. I recently downloaded SP1 to my already existing XP OS.

Many of the songs I have were originally in MP3 format. I resampled them to wav...this reduced file size from as high as 3 mb to around 500k in most cases. The loss in sound quality works to my advantage in that it helps give the music that old am radio/scratchy phonograph sound. Now I need to figure out how to best resample to ensure compatibility with SP1.

Doc

[Rick]

Welcome Doc , been watching here good work so far.

BTW I have the same problem as Gaussian playing In the Mood, using a favctory install on XP

Thanks Rick, because this confirms that the Indeo Codec that is not available is causing these problems.

Ok Doc, make you a deal; you try to figure out what the best universal codec is that you can use and when you're done and uploaded one to your web site, I will check to see if it works on XP SP1, Win2k SP3 and Win98 SE.

I already tried another codec in Sonic Foundry and the IMA ADPCM audio codec was working quite well; I managed to get 230kb for a 3.5MB MP3 converted to mono. It all depends what you prefer of course; quality, size, mono/stereo. To be on the safe side you might consider using only codecs that start with the text "Microsoft".

Let me know when uploaded a new sample file with the new codec.

[fdeaton]

I just looked at it everything worked very well. Actually I thought it was way cool and will come back later.

[Doc]

Well, I resampled "In The Mood". Not sure if it will work any better but, it did cut 2kb from the file BTW, have you checked the Microsoft Knowledge Base regarding indeo codecs and XP?

Here's a snippet from the Microsoft Knowledge Base (no reference to SP1 however):

Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - Q291948

Windows Media Player for Windows XP Supported Codecs:

...NOTE: Not all of the supported codecs are installed by default. These codecs will be downloadable when you play content that requires the codec.

There is an option in Media Player under tools to automatically download the necessary codecs. Have you given that a try? It would be just like MS to discontinue including indeo codecs with nothing compatable to replace it.



Doc
http://www.glewis.net/jukeboxlabeled1.htm (now completed)

Doc, I don't know about you but the information on the Indeo web site is perfectly clear; Indeo is not going to be included in XP anymore.
It's all in in black and white and very well explained in their statement.
This a good example of an ending licence agreement, in this case for a codec.