Color problems in photograph after SAVE AS jpeg?

[tricky500]

Lol. The last part is 100% correct. The best you can do is calibrate your monitor - not with microsofts brightness settings but an actual gretag program or something of the like and not embed profiles. The last part because every picture looks the same on a calibrated monitor as long as it does not have an embedded icc profile. Then your PS will match whatever program. But for someone who has an uncalibrated monitor viewing your photo the color will vary. You can account for your own color but you cannot guarantee it outside of your computer specifically..

[Gaussian]

Interesting topic guys.

Does the color look the same for you in PS as other programs Steve if you don't embed a color profile?

[tricky500]

The only way to get windows picture and fax viewer to exactly match Photoshop is to use your monitor's profile. But this creates a problem with everything outside of your computer and you aren't seeing the true color especially if you are using an uncalibrated monitor to begin with. I haven't actually done much work with monitor calibration @ my work so this topic is of interest to me.. There's a lot of info I'm missing :X

[Steve]

Interesting topic guys.

Does the color look the same for you in PS as other programs Steve if you don't embed a color profile?

You're not embedding a color profile, it's already there.

It looks the same in PS as it does in Windows viewers and apps if you don't use the existing embedded profile.

The embedded profile is always sRGB since the images I'm talking about are posted on the Internet in photo forums, etc.
When you view these images with Internet Explorer, or drop them on your desktop and view them with any basic Windows viewer you're looking at the image in a program that ignores (does not use) the embedded sRGB profile.

If you tell PS to ignore the embedded profile, Edit|Assign Profile|Don't Color Manage This Document, it looks exactly the same as it does in the MS apps and viewers.

Yes this was really interesting.
I learned a lot about something I never understood.
I don't recall if we heard from the OP past his original post, I hope I didn't hijack this string from the OP and that he/she found an answer too.

[Yutosi]

Hmm, so what does checking/unchecking this little guy do when you save a PSD? If you uncheck it will it strip the color profile from the image?

[Steve]

HM, so what does checking/upchucking this little guy do when you save a PSD? If you uncheck it will it strip the color profile from the image?

OK, but we're not talking about stripping the color profile from an image.

We're talking about the fact that PS reads and uses an embedded profile if it exists and viewers do not read and use that profile.
The result is the images look different.

Want the image to look the the same in PS and the viewers, have PS ignore the embedded profile.

[Tron]

This is an especially difficult problem for web designers, because web design work will be viewed on many different computers and monitors using several different browsers.

Most web browsers do not read color profiles and a lot of Windows software (as mentioned in this thread) does not have any built in color management either. In these cases they apply their default (and usually wrong) color information to images. the difference in some cases (for example when you are using Adobe RGB color profile in Photoshop) can be huge.

A lot of Mac applications DO read color profiles and manage color very well. Apple's Safari browser for example (for both Mac and Windows) does read ICC color profiles and automatically maps them to your monitors color space. This can get you into trouble if you are designing in Photoshop and testing in Safari because when you look at the work in a non-color managed browser it might look completely different.

Chrome does not read color profiles or have any color management, Opera does not read color profiles, and Internet Explorer is also non-color managed. Newer versions or Firefox can read color profiles but on older versions it is not turned on by default.

Without color management the color of your images is going to change from one computer to the next depending on the color space of the monitor being used. The best thing you can do is make sure you are always designing in sRGB color space, because that will probably be closest to the default that non-color managed browsers will apply to the image.

This all gets very technical, but the bottom line is that at the current time there's no way for you to know how colors will look on a different computer and it's something we just have to accept.

I think the trend is leaning towards future software all being able to read color profiles, but we are a long way from that.

[jammydoug]

Hi
How do you get the graphic photoshop and how do you get it for free?how do u get the graphic photoshop.i mean the one when u put cool graphic on your picture...and how do you get it for free.

[tricky500]

Start your own thread and buy photoshop.. :/

[Gaussian]

Start your own thread and buy photoshop.. :/

Amen.