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Thanks for the input, well I don't know what I did but got them red but now when I get the rest of it black the whole thing is turning black.  Starting from square one again.  I did what Carrie56 put in his post when I did it and it did say foreground up above and when you dropped that down it did not say background.  I did just get it done though but I don't know how lol.

The color boxes on the left side down at the bottom showed red and black when I changed the colors but would only let me do red, did the letters with it and then clicked on the black to do the background but it filled it as red also.  It was also red and black showing in the two boxes up above on the right side and it didn't matter which one I chose it went on as red.  I finally chose the front one again and put them both to black and the background is now black.  It does not show as two colors in any of the info boxes but now just shows as black.

Sorry but will try to learn the right names for everything as I get through some of this.