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thanks guys for your comments , i did pick a tough one and a really good example for practice

it was the top half of the feathers i was having trouble with , i dont think i done a bad job in the end and certainly understand it a lot better now , i only used refine edge , smart radius then edge detection and painted back some of the areas that needed too with the erase refinement tool , problem i was having was the edges were not as yellow as the bottom feathers , refine edge done a great job on the bottom half but the top half of feathers was tricker and look washed out , i guess i should of painted these in while it was cut out on a blank backround , ill try that tonight

what im after now is how to get the edges more defined and better color at the tips but all up not too bad , ill look at the topaz plug in , havent used alpha channels yet so ill look at that too