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Cropping in CS3


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darthkir

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Hello,

I am having problem to crop using ratio instead of values of inches or pixels. In cs2 if i enter any values eg. 6 in width and 4 in height w/out specifying the unit it will use that value as ration instead, in this case 6:4. No resolution as i dont want to resample.

But when i tried this in cs3 it will use the value and i will get a 6 by 4 inches image instead of ratio.

Please help!
 
Ratio only works with marquee, not with crop. Crop requires units.

Use the rectangular marquee and you can put in arbitrary ratios.

Welcome to PSG.
 
MindBender said:
Ratio only works with marquee, not with crop. Crop requires units.

Use the rectangular marquee and you can put in arbitrary ratios.

Welcome to PSG.
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Thank you.

Is this true in cs3, because i think this can be done in cs2 and element.
 
Welcome. 8))

darthkir said:
In cs2 if i enter any values eg. 6 in width and 4 in height w/out specifying the unit it will use that value as ration instead, in this case 6:4. But when i tried this in cs3 it will use the value and i will get a 6 by 4 inches image instead of ratio.
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I tried the crop tool in CS, CS2, CS3 and it works exactly the same in all 3 programs and it doesn't matter whether you enter no unit, inches or pixels, it will always start in the ratio as specified, so if you start with 1 px and 2 px, you'll have a 1:2 ratio.
 
gaussian said:
so if you start with 1 px and 2 px, you'll have a 1:2 ratio.
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Yes, the ratio will stay true, but once you apply the crop, it will resize based on the units, and I think what they want is to have it not resize after the crop occurs. I've run into this a few times myself, often in the middle of an edit, you want to crop out an area, but you don't want to resize or resample to do it... so you either have to figure out what units and resolution you want... or simply use the marquee instead.
 
Oh, ok, now I understand what the problem is. No, if it resamples you have to make sure the resolution box is empty in the option bar.
 
gauss said:
No, if it resamples you have to make sure the resolution box is empty in the option bar.
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True... I dunno... habit I guess. I'm usually either cropping visually so units and ratio doesn't matter or cropping for a specific output where it's strict... so I rarely need an arbitrary size with fixed ratio like that.

Either way will work, party on darth. heh
 
Gaussian said:
No, I just gave you the solution or am I missing something? [confused]
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Sorry, from what I gather here, I will get the ratio during cropping but once I accept it photoshop will resize based on the unit used. So, if I enter 4:3 ratio (in width & height) and my ruler is set to inches, I will get an image with 4 by 3 inches. Still, this wont fullfil my objective.

If i leave the resolution empty it will not resample, so if i resize smaller i will get more pixels per inch.
 
darthkir said:
If i leave the resolution empty it will not resample, so if i resize smaller i will get more pixels per inch.
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The whole time I'm thinking that you want to crop without resizing, so either using the marquee tool or leaving the box empty will work. So why do you bring up "if i resize smaller i will get more pixels per inch", I don't understand what that has to do with it.
 
Gaussian said:
The whole time I'm thinking that you want to crop without resizing, so either using the marquee tool or leaving the box empty will work. So why do you bring up "if i resize smaller i will get more pixels per inch", I don't understand what that has to do with it.
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:) Sorry my english is not so good;

1. If i leave the box (width & height) empty yes I can crop but i wont get a fixed ratio
2. If i leave the box (resolution) empty it just wont resample, nothing to do with crop ratio anyway

Thanks.
 
darthkir said:
1. If i leave the box (width & height) empty yes I can crop but i wont get a fixed ratio
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Ok, I will explain it one more time and then I give up. :D

First of all I never said that you should leave width and height empty. Check my example and you'll see that I entered 1 in and 2 in for width and height, this in combination with the resolution box that's empty will result in a crop with a ratio 1:2 without sampling.

darthkir said:
2. If i leave the box (resolution) empty it just wont resample, nothing to do with crop ratio anyway
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No, of course it won't resample, because that's what you asked for.
If you want it to resample, then you could for example use px instead of in, because that will indeed resample the image.
 
Gaussian said:
Ok, I will explain it one more time and then I give up. :D

First of all I never said that you should leave width and height empty. Check my example and you'll see that I entered 1 in and 2 in for width and height, this in combination with the resolution box that's empty will result in a crop with a ratio 1:2 without sampling.
No, of course it won't resample, because that's what you asked for.
If you want it to resample, then you could for example use px instead of in, because that will indeed resample the image.
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Ahh, now i get it! :D My image's pixel dimensions will change in relation to the ratio but my document size will change to the new size (in your example 1 by 2 inches).
 
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