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dzero2

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after the most successfull version of photoshop.....7.0
i feel let down with the new cs2

i have upgraded on every ocassion first version being v3..... paid yes........ not torrented or cracked version paid....

but on this occasion cs2 seams to run very slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww indeed...

i have installed it on 4 pcs now and its slow on them all ... all of em being 3.0+ with over 1 of ram in each but they all run slow

has anyone else had this problem?

i ahve read on teh internet that its a major problem with it, but shurley they should have sorted this b4 they released it?
 
First thing to try is to upgrade your video drivers - CS2 seems to use some features that don't get a workout that much, and upgrading the drivers may help.

After that, you are going to have to post your system specs before we can really sit down and help you out.
 
I haven't noticed a difference from CS to CS2. \:]
 
[confused] Well, I just got me copy of CS2 in hand today and am wondering if I should install it now \:] ...CS runs great on my puter, isn't slow at all.....so I guess I'll just keep my fingers and toes crossed. 8[
 
p?tr??k said:
I haven't noticed a difference from CS to CS2. \:]
That's because the speed differential is minimal from CS to CS2. But v7 was, IMHO, the fastest version since v4. So i think a person would really notice the sluggish difference going that far ahead in versions. .
 
:righton: 8D Reporting in: I just installed CS2 and it's like lightning on mine -- I don't see any slow down at all. I'm using an Athlon AMD64 FX-55, 2G RAM and ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition 256mb card.
 
theKeeper said:
p?tr??k said:
I haven't noticed a difference from CS to CS2. \:]
That's because the speed differential is minimal from CS to CS2. But v7 was, IMHO, the fastest version since v4. So i think a person would really notice the sluggish difference going that far ahead in versions. .

Well I wouldn't know because when I got CS I upgraded my computer big time! The only original hardware in it now is the cd drive and the case. CS2 is not slow on my comp though. I'm running AMD 64 3400+ ,1 gig ram, and 9800 pro 256mb. I'm considering upgradeing my hard drive to a SATA 250gig. Their posed to be way faster than NTFS so I'll have to see for myself. :\
 
we run

2 x intel Pentium 4 processor with 3.80GHz, 800FSB, all with 4 GB of New Dual channel DDR2-533MHz SDRAM from dell

and 2 x dell dimensions 8400 Pentium 4 processor 530 (3.00GHz, 800fsb, 1MB cache)

cs worked okay on all the pc's but cs2 is just running like a lame dog....

i ahve been looking at various other forums regard the matter and its seems its a common problem by the sounds of it........

for now i have reverted back to cs on all our pcs, and as a business it becomes expensive when you HAVE to buy a multi user licence and your disapointed with a product.......

i might ring them up!
 
We're going to need more system specs than that: Hard drive configuration, what % of memory is allocated to PS, what video card, where you have your scratch disks set up, etc...

You do mention that you are running this on machines with more than 2 gig of RAM. Have you tried the /3GB switch that will let CS2 access more than the standard 2 gig? That may help out matters.
 
I agree with Jon that most people are finding no degradation of performance, myself included, in CS2. I've read all about the work arounds (ie. disabling font preview, and closing various palettes) as well as the issues with various graphics card and/or their drivers.

But the real point is that, you cannot deny that this release has resulted in an unusually high amount of negative feedback, almost entirely regarding performance drop-off. There are inherent problems with any software, that doesn't work within it's hardware recommendations, requires work-arounds, or is inconsistent under similar enviroments. I really don't think this version was properly beta tested or that it was rushed to market to meet the 18-month cycle. Seems that the last stable version was PS7.

Having said that, I haven't had a problem with CS2. So go figure. \:]
 
the scratch disc are set up same as they where in our versions of photoshop cs and photoshop 7 and the memory was set up as default (i thinkits 50% (same as the old versions)) the olny thing i change is the scratch discs as always.

i am starting to think this is a trial to full problem.....i have contacted adobe and tehy are sending a disc to us to test.

i ahve gone through the settings with support, they did state that they have had a few problems like this.
 
SCync said:
I really don't think this version was properly beta tested or that it was rushed to market to meet the 18-month cycle.
I'll agree with that. It seems some things were only done half-way, but I haven't experienced any performance issues once I turned the font preview off. (And that was just because I usually keep most of my fonts activated - bad practice, I know.)

However, I have been hanging around Adobe's User-to-user forums for a while now, and when CS came out, IIRC, there were MANY more problems and people posting about issues they had with CS than with CS2. I don't remember the how the forums were with 7, but 7 has to be my favorite release stability-wise. It was always rock solid, just like you said. (Although the brushes palette seemed to bog my PII-400 down quite a bit back then.)

dzero2 : You still haven't answered my questions. The articles I posted go through how different CS2 is from previous versions, so saying that everything "is set the same as before" really doesn't help us troubleshoot anything.
 
please dont get me wrong, i havent got a problem with photoshop in the form as a piece of software..... i couldn't earn a living with out it and its fellow cs family, and teh features on cs2 are what has been needed since the release of v7.0

i just think that if if a company like ours upgrades it wants a fluid transition from one to another..... and we didnt get that.
 
Jon, using a font manager will help you tremendously. The font preview was requested by a lot of users, but its performance is not transparent if you've got a lot of fonts installed.

Using big tiles might help Dzero 5CS behaviour will more closely math the one of CS (if you did not use the adjusted refresh plug-in)

Also, do not allocate too much memory if you are not using a 64bit OS.

The videocard problem is an issue of improper support of a peculiar API by nVidia on its Geforce 4400 and 4600 (at least, most people having problems use those videocards) Some had problems with quadro videocards and even ATI ones.

I have no problem on my GeForce 5200. Updating the drivers, or lowering the hardware acceleration helps.

People having a problem are a minority. But of course a vocal one.

Thanks for the comments about improper beta testing :\ You do not even imagine the amount of time that can be dedicated doing so, and the rage you're into when you notice that some bugs have slipped through.

One cannot have every videocard on the market, with every combinaison of drivers...

BTW, people complaint at each new version of Photoshop. There is always some change that annoys the reluctants to evolution, some API that causes a problem where it was tested ok on a system that was almost the same... But the engineers do care for their program and try to fix most issues. The problem is that they need to be able to reproduce the problem to find its cause.
 
the scratch discs are set up as

1: start up , a 180 gig (there is only windows xp and the cs suite on this disc)

2: D anouther 180 gigger currently 110 gig left on this

3: E externat 180 gig storage disc (120gig left)

4: blank

cache levels at 4 (default)

memory usage at 50% (default)

i am now waiting for the new dic from adobe to arrive , i will keep you al posted
 
sPECtre said:
Jon, using a font manager will help you tremendously. The font preview was requested by a lot of users, but its performance is not transparent if you've got a lot of fonts installed.
Pierre, I use a font manager, I'm just in the very bad habit of keeping all my fonts activated at once, even if I'm not using them. I seem to activate them when I need it, and then just don't get around to deactivating them.

dzero2, I don't think those are the cache and memory setting defaults for CS2 anymore. IIRC, (and I'm not at my computer) cache levels are defaulted at 6, and memory percentage is 55%. But that shouldn't make too much of a difference for you.

Try setting your primary scratch disk to be drive D, and go through the articles I linked to. (Have you upgraded your video drivers yet?)
 
jonbalza said:
We're going to need more system specs than that: Hard drive configuration, what % of memory is allocated to PS, what video card, where you have your scratch disks set up, etc...

You do mention that you are running this on machines with more than 2 gig of RAM. Have you tried the /3GB switch that will let CS2 access more than the standard 2 gig? That may help out matters.
Jonbalza, if you read the newsgroup articles in Adobe's newsgroup, then you would understand that this is a driver issue, caused by a new API that Adobe uses in CS2. Adobe hasn't come up with a solution (or workaround) yet, so I don't think any of us is going to solve it if you ask my honest opinion. Either Adobe will find a solution or the solution has to come from the video card manufacturers by releasing updated drivers.
 

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