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sPECtre ... thank you, thank you, thank you ... that helps heaps (I was tackling it the wrong way for my limited abilities) ...  and I thank Gaussian in absentia (or where ever he is :D) .... I thank kiwi for his help as well as a big thank you to sfm for her offer of the pic of the Pelican feather but I needed a 'generic' feather (is 'generic' the right word?? [confused]) as the feathers origin couldn't suggest niceness, strength or any other good attributes  [sly]  [shhh]  :D


... and Wendy (wbiss) said.....


... hmmn, dementia setting in Wendy??  :bustagut:  :bustagut: ... thanks about the avatar, it was time for a change so I just played with warped text for 10 minutes then put it all through Image Ready :D


What is our favorite program/app? (Hint - it begins and ends with the letter P)
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