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hiya,

can you talk me through how you would do it if this vent was shot on a black background, as you suggest?

so there is definitely no way, with the shots that I do have, to make a selection, and then basically edit the selection ? so make a selection of the entire grated area, and then add the vertical selections afterwards?

I vaguely know pen tool, but not layer masks - i'll look in to this with a touch of google!

thanks IamSam  also, just for your reference, it's one fell swoop, not fail swoop as you put. It never seems to be said in the states, I certainly never heard anyone say it when I lived there, but it comes from an old English word "felon" which meant fierce.

so do it quickly, in one fierce strike, if that makes sense.

thanks for help!

Jenny