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Alexandria

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Is there an easier way to get a shadow on the outside of the frame WITHOUT having a shadow on the inside (frame is cutout in center)

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I just drew this shadow, but is there "better" solution?
 

Alexandria

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Also put a normal drop shadow on the frame layer, rightclicked "drop shadow" > create layer .. and then simply erased inside ... any other options?
 

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Is there an easier way to get a shadow on the outside of the frame WITHOUT having a shadow on the inside (frame is cutout in center)
Yes. But, if the center section has been "cut out", the same lighting that would cause a shadow on the bottom of the rounded rectangle would also cause a shadow on the inner/upper inside edge. It does not appear natural with the shadow at the bottom only unless your plan is to place a photo inside.

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Here are some possibilities.

Method one.
On your shadow layer, use a selection of the outside of the rounded rectangle to "mask" (not a layer mask) or limit the brush stroke to the bottom of the rectangle only.
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Or this method!
Create a new layer.
Make a selection of the outside of the rounded rectangle.
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Fill the selection with white.
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Lower the new layers fill to 0%.
Add a drop shadow layer style.
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Alexandria

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Ok, I am somehow not getting the same outcome:

Create a new layer
Draw rectangle with rectangular marquee tool, fill white
Make a selection of the outside of the rounded rectangle like so?
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Lower the new layers fill to 0%
Add a drop shadow layer style (on what layer?)

If I do it on the original rectangle layer, I can't get it only at the bottom and when I cut out the center, shadow is there again

That's the only way I can get it ONLY at the bottom but its too "sharp"
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Ok, I am somehow not getting the same outcome:
OK. Let's look at what I stated......
Create a new layer.
Make a selection of the outside of the rounded rectangle.
Fill the selection with white.
Lower the new layers fill to 0%.
Add a drop shadow layer style.
....and here's what you stated...
Create a new layer
Draw rectangle with rectangular marquee tool, fill white
Make a selection of the outside of the rounded rectangle like so?
Lower the new layers fill to 0%
Add a drop shadow layer style (on what layer?)
You have added a new step in the sequence.
None of your sample photos show that you have lowered the layers fill to 0%
All of what I instruct above is on the same new layer.

If I do it on the original rectangle layer, I can't get it only at the bottom and when I cut out the center, shadow is there again
You should be doing this on a new layer above the original. If you do this correctly, you won't have to cut out anything.
 

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This is what I get when I do what you said and I still need "just a frame" .. cutout (that I can put over any image
 

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Frankly I don't see where anything suggested or that will be suggested is going to be any easier than simply making the drop shadow a separate layer and masking the parts you don't want. That should take you less than 10 seconds.
 

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Frankly I don't see where anything suggested or that will be suggested is going to be any easier than simply making the drop shadow a separate layer and masking the parts you don't want. That should take you less than 10 seconds.
Thank you
 

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Frankly I don't see where anything suggested or that will be suggested is going to be any easier than simply making the drop shadow a separate layer and masking the parts you don't want. That should take you less than 10 seconds.
I agree, but I'm trying to help with what the OP is asking for. Sorry.

This is what I get when I do what you said and I still need "just a frame" .. cutout (that I can put over any image
In your layers panel, you do not have a frame in layer 1.
You also don't have a white rectangle in layer 2...
A frame has an inner and outer rounded rectangle. Make a selection of the outside of the rounded rectangle. (I can see where you may have been confused)
It looks like you have cut-out the rectangle with a white border.
In my instructions I state to fill the rectangle, not outside the rectangle.
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This is what your layers panel should look like....
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This is what it will produce......
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If you have marching ants on the outside of another marching ant selection......
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And you fill that selection, it will fill between the two marching ant selections
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If you only have one marching ant selection.....
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It will fill in that selection...
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I agree, but I'm trying to help with what the OP is asking for. Sorry.


In your layers panel, you do not have a frame in layer 1.
You also don't have a white rectangle in layer 2....it looks like you have cut-out the rectangle with a white border. In my instructions I state to fill the rectangle, not outside the rectangle.
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This is what your layers panel should look like....
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This is what it will produce......
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If you have marching ants on the outside of another marching ant selection......
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And you fill that selection, it will fill between the two marching ant selections
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If you only have one marching ant selection.....
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It will fill in that selection...
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No problem, I just don't see where anything is going to be any easier or faster.
 

Alexandria

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Ok, I misunderstood here: Make a selection of the outside of the rounded rectangle.

I thought that was to "inverse" the outside part ...... thx for the help :)
 

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