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This is a thread started after I made some comments on feedback and critiques in a recent thread.........
This response was made after a long time period where I had noticed that there only seemed to be a handful of members that were offering (solicited) critiques on works posted in the Graphic Design Showroom. A lot of our members were just adding "likes" to the submissions but no real constructive criticism when asked for it. It seemed that I always had some advice for the improvement of works and I really did not mind offering my opinions. The OP's seemed to respond to advice and comments, but it's often times hard to judge how the core membership feels about your comments without feedback of your own.
It wasn't until after a PM conversation that I had with an unnamed member quite awhile back, where they thought that I was seen as a "bad guy" by always finding something "wrong" or that needed a little work. It was pointed out that I was just never happy or content with a members submitted work and that I needed to realize that people and their works are not perfect. My response was of course that the OP asked for critique and how were they ever supposed to get better. It was explained that not all people had the skill levels that some of our members had (including myself) and that we were raising the bar and expectations higher than the member may be capable of. It was also stated that not all members who ask for critiques really want them, that it was just a formality. The conversation went on, but I won't bore you with the rest.
In walking away from that conversation I thought I was unfazed and thinking that it was more or less a crock of Bantha Poo Doo. But as time went on I became more and more aware of the comments I was making and what was going on with other members in the forum. Eventually I started feeling that maybe I WAS being viewed as a "bad guy" so I decided to start limiting my responses to submitted works by members who asked for critiques.
For some unexplained reason, the matter reared it's ugly head and I made a few comments that I probably should have kept to myself and I certainly did not mean to hijack the OP's thread..............but given the responses, I'm glad I did.
The following are posts removed from that thread.
IamSam said:There are some compositional choices that I don't agree with, but I will keep those to myself. I don't like being the only member who's willing to offer genuine constructive criticism.
This response was made after a long time period where I had noticed that there only seemed to be a handful of members that were offering (solicited) critiques on works posted in the Graphic Design Showroom. A lot of our members were just adding "likes" to the submissions but no real constructive criticism when asked for it. It seemed that I always had some advice for the improvement of works and I really did not mind offering my opinions. The OP's seemed to respond to advice and comments, but it's often times hard to judge how the core membership feels about your comments without feedback of your own.
It wasn't until after a PM conversation that I had with an unnamed member quite awhile back, where they thought that I was seen as a "bad guy" by always finding something "wrong" or that needed a little work. It was pointed out that I was just never happy or content with a members submitted work and that I needed to realize that people and their works are not perfect. My response was of course that the OP asked for critique and how were they ever supposed to get better. It was explained that not all people had the skill levels that some of our members had (including myself) and that we were raising the bar and expectations higher than the member may be capable of. It was also stated that not all members who ask for critiques really want them, that it was just a formality. The conversation went on, but I won't bore you with the rest.
In walking away from that conversation I thought I was unfazed and thinking that it was more or less a crock of Bantha Poo Doo. But as time went on I became more and more aware of the comments I was making and what was going on with other members in the forum. Eventually I started feeling that maybe I WAS being viewed as a "bad guy" so I decided to start limiting my responses to submitted works by members who asked for critiques.
For some unexplained reason, the matter reared it's ugly head and I made a few comments that I probably should have kept to myself and I certainly did not mean to hijack the OP's thread..............but given the responses, I'm glad I did.
The following are posts removed from that thread.
Thanks, I used to think that we could only get better when we received constructive criticism, but I guess things are changing.thanks
and i respect your choice, but the reason i posted it is to get criticism, but again i respect your choice