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samsimon

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solid jaggies are alright for me..... here what I meant - Smooth vs None - see how the shape&size change - smooth vs none...... I want smooth text with None... I think thebestcpu understood what I meant...
 

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Hi smasimon
I will assume that if you get rid of the partial transparency then those images will work for you. You will need to try a sample print to verify.
Both @JeffK and @puraidodes had good comments which beg the question why the printers are being more cooperative with you as have these soft edges is very common and they should have been able to help/accommodate. Yet such as it is.

Note the the approach I give below will work in CS4 for every situation of which I can think for how transparency is created. What it does is eliminate any partial transparency and make solid the underlying color. This may or may not be what you want. If you have a very wide width of partial transparency, then the image will appear to grow.

There may be other ways to do this yet was going for one easy to implement for you.

1) You need to make sure you have a single pixel Layer (not text Layer) that only has pixels, pixels with partial transparency, and pixels with full transparency (no color at all). This single Layer should not have and Layer Mask or Vector masks (those can be merged into the pixels pretty easily if you need help with that). Also not, that since you want to have transparency, this cannot be a background Layer (which has no transparency).

If you don't have a single Layer, one pretty fool proof way to get down to one Layer and preserve transparency is to add one empty Layer and use the Layer > Merge Layers command (won't work with a single Layer)

2) Once you have this single pixel Layer with no masks you follow the following keyboard shortcut commands

Cmd+J followed by Cmd+E (Cntl+J followed by Cntl+E for PCs)
Repeat the above pair of commands 9 times (for 8 bit depth images) if you are using 16 bit images let me know.

Every time a pair of the above commands is done, a Layer is duplicated and merged back into the original. It appears that there is no change yet with each iteration, the transparency is reduced (opacity is increased). I won't get into the math yet the smallest amount of transparency (for 8 bit images) will yield totally by using 9 iterations. It takes more interations with 16 bit files.

When done, save as a PNG with the transparency and you are done.

Note that this could be turned into an Action and run on a batch of files in a folder for productivity yet thought this would be a good starting point for you to try.

If you find that the image enlarges to big when taking our the transparency, then its still possible to do yet maybe not quite as easily. The sample I returned to you was done with the steps I provided above so hope it works for your other designs.

Hope this helps so give it a try
John Wheeler

PS - There are several ways to remove the transparency in Photoshop yet fewer in the CS4 era so chose the one way that seemed the easiest to implement with the least confusion.
 

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wow, so there is no fast way? As I think I found one, is there a way like this but more precise?
For me (I'm super noob within PS) long steps are hard to do, I get confused.
 

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If that works for all of your cases you are good to go. I did not want to make assumptions about all of your designs.
The bucket fill does not work in all cases yet it may work in all of your cases.
I will assume you are good to go and best of skill on your projects and designs.
John Wheeler
 

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I will try to follow your steps, because bucket not working for many cases.... but I just mentioned it, because it's easy and understandable for noobs like me... Thank you
 

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I will try to follow your steps, because bucket not working for many cases.... but I just mentioned it, because it's easy and understandable for noobs like me... Thank you
I don't know how many cases it does not work for in your designs, yet the bucket tool does not work directly on Text Layers or if you are not using solid colors in your text. Yet there are many ways to get the job done, and if it is easy and works, you should use it and for those cases that it does not, you just use another way. There is no right way or wrong way if it works.
Its great that you are not letting things get in the way of your own success and try out different ways to solve your problem.
Hope you are successful in your endeavors.
John Wheeler
 

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Last question and I'm done, if I can ask you here? What the best easiest way to change colors, for example, I have 3 colors within my design, and I need to change all three colors, to three other different colors...
 

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Hard to know the easiest without more details yet If you are referring to PNG single pixel Layer images with 3 solid colors, a sure fire way to do this is select the individual color and fill with the new color (paint bucket or keyboard shortcuts and color swatches can speed it up). There are more ways to speed it up yet with a small number of designs, as you have found, just trying a few approaches in PS can reveal some good fast ones for your situation.
John Wheeler
 

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And for vector designs ( single pixel Layer images with 3 solid colors ) same steps?
"are more ways to speed it up" could you name the tool names? I will investigate them all
 

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5. here - how they printed my test/sample

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samsimon - something isn't making sense to me looking at the test print image you show.
The white fringe is only appearing at the bottoms. I assume the black is the color of the item that you're printing on.
If the jaggies of the original art we're causing a problem, that white fringe should show up all around the artwork, not just on the bottom.
I'm beginning to think it's a printing problem and not an artwork problem.
If they're printing an underlay of white as @puraidodes had mentioned earlier, and the white fringe is only showing up on the bottoms of all the type artwork, then what you have is a printing registration problem. They're not lining up the white underlay properly under the red type.

Here's an example of poor registration on the four print colors = cyan, magenta yellow, and black:

bad register.JPG

You can see, for instance, that the cyan (blue) is dropping downwards away from the black. The red is falling upwards away from the black. They're basically out of register in one direction.
If everything was in register, all colors would line up and you would only see the black.

Is it possible you can show us a larger section of the printed piece? Just trying to see if the print is out of register as I'm thinking.

Don't get frustrated. What it also sounds like is you're buying a commodity print job and you have a customer service person who may not be looking at the problem correctly. I may be wrong- but from looking at the sample you showed, you've just got a badly printed piece.

Try to show us a larger sample of several letters - that may prove, or disprove, my point.

- Jeff
 

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agree with you 1000% but I emailed them 10 times, they keep saying some bs..... I think customer service and back office (printing) don't talk to each other.....
that's why I need to make sure this company cannot tell me that it's my design..... one more different POD (printing company) just told me it's my design.... :(
 

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Text starts at 2:49. some companies as I assume adjust their printers perfectly.... other companies want zero "shades" because they will never adjust their printings...
 

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Last question and I'm done, if I can ask you here? What the best easiest way to change colors, for example, I have 3 colors within my design, and I need to change all three colors, to three other different colors...
Last question - don't ever promise that ;)
Here is a link to the full CS4 help file (I don't know if you have access) and you can search this PDF for the many ways and tools. Too numerous to list yet you have a ton of energy so thought this might help. Pretty sure that link works.
https://tinyurl.com/cs4helpfile

John Wheeler

PS - I am sure after reading the whole document you will have a least one or two questions :)
 

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Text starts at 2:49. some companies as I assume adjust their printers perfectly.... other companies want zero "shades" because they will never adjust their printings...
Samsimon - this looks like a print registration problem and not an artwork problem.

Looking at the sample of the Redbubble test print, you can see the white underlay is out of register in the same downward direction throughout:

red bubble.JPG

The Printful sample has no white edges at all - top, bottom, or sides:

printful.JPG

Looking into the company, Printful has their own printing equipment and do not subcontract the printing. They're not middlemen. That can make a huge difference is quality control and customer service.

They are a bit pricier, but go with the vendor that gives you the best final product.

There's an old saying in the print industry:
"The bitterness of a job poorly done lasts longer than the sweetness of a cheap price."

Good luck with this and best of success!

- Jeff
 

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thanks I will take a look.
For now could you tell me could be the issue here....
I found this way.... not sure for some reason, it doesn't change my second (black color) to another one
 

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Two-Three other companies - have white outline.... thus maybe if I eliminate my shades, it may help..... I cannot fight with them - after they stated it's my design.... I cannot use for now printful (i got no time, money, and knowledge to build my own website...)
 

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thanks I will take a look.
For now could you tell me could be the issue here....
I found this way.... not sure for some reason, it doesn't change my second (black color) to another one
Not how that tool works. Go figure
John Wheeler

 

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1. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HELP!!!!!! I figured it out, the text font in settings was set to Bold...... then i turned it off, and anti-aliasing off and text looks great!
2. Also the non transparent brush (stars, leaves, distress) "fixed" using "mask edge"set contrast to 100% and Contract/Expend to 100%
3. Just cannot figure out how to change colors, especially Black color, in few clicks :(
 
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thebestcpu

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OK this is along the lines of what I already recommended yet
Select color with Magic Wand Tool (first click)
Select foreground color from Swatch (second click)
Shorcut key Opt+Delete (Alt+BkSpace on PC) to fill with foreground (third click)

Should work with any color (or lack of color in the case of white or black)
John Wheeler
 

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